In view of the developing volume and depth of information that is available on digital records the 17th Battalion losses are considered as:-
Wounded All Ranks
Prisoners of War – Three men from III Platoon. See The Cost
By necessity it is not possible to verify all records and some records are incomplete, especially information on wounded members of the Battalion. These omissions should be reduced as more information is obtained.
Below is a summary of men from 17th Battalion, identified by CWGC as dying between 8th and 29th July. Inevitably some of these men will have died of wounds received in the Montauban battle or earlier engagements / illness. The majority will relate casualties at Trones Wood on 9th / 10th July 1916.
ASHTON WALTER 10/07/1916 Private ‘8364’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL. Death presumed. Trained III Pln, A Coy. Pawnbroker’s Assistant. Effects left to father, Benjamin, at 26 Long Row, Buckton Vale, Stalybridge and later 50 Town Lane, Dukinfield until his death in June 1921. Commemorated on Foundry St Primitive Methodist Church Memorial Roll Dukinfield and is named on Chapel Hill Memorial and the Baptist Church Memorial.
BAMFORD GERALD 10/07/1916 Serjeant ‘8398’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL.
BARNETT THOMAS 10/07/1916 29 Lance Corporal ‘8387’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL. Presumed dead. Trained III Platoon of A Company. Son of Horatio & Esther Ann Barnett of 25 Liverpool Road, Manchester. Thomas had been born in Lower Broughton. He was one of the 1,080 members of the Adelphi Lads Club, Salford, to have served in the War. Resources – Salford War Memorials. In 1911, Thomas had lived with his parents and four sisters at 5 Lawn Street, Lower Broughton. He was then employed as a clerk in a cotton manufacturers.
BARRETT WILLIAM 10/07/1916 Private ‘26311’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL. France in 1916. Presumed dead. Son of Maria Barrett of 81 Gregory Street, Longton, Staffs, previously 58 Romney Street Salford.
BENNETT JOHN 23 10/07/1916 Private ‘8453’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Trained & Presumed dead with XV Pln D Coy. Son of Mary Jane BENNETT, OF 12, BARWICK PLACE, FACTORY LANE, HARPURHEY, MANCHESTER. Brother of Harold, William & Lilley. Labourer, Enlisted 03/09/1914.
BIRCHALL HARRY 26 10/07/1916 Private ’17/8439′ BERNAFAY WOOD BRITISH CEMETERY, MONTAUBAN. Employed by Chorlton Brothers Ltd. Trained X Pln C Coy. Killed in Action. His original grave had been on the north western side of Trones Wood. The family arranged the inscription:-“WORTHY OF EVERLASTING REMEMBRANCE C.B.” SON OF MR. AND MRS. J. BIRCHALL, OF MOSTON, MANCHESTER; HUSBAND OF SOPHIA BIRCHALL, OF CHELFORD RD., OLLERTON, KNUTSFORD, CHESHIRE.
BRIERLEY JOHN 32 10/07/1916 Lance Serjeant ‘9246’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Former Policeman trained XX Pln & 25th Bttn. L/Sgt 07/02/1916. France 11/02/1916. Joined Bttn 29/05/1916. Presumed dead. SON OF SARAH ANN BRIERLEY, OF 2, WELLINGTON TERRACE, GREENFIELD, OLDHAM, AND THE LATE THOMAS BRIERLEY; HUSBAND OF ANNIE SLEE (FORMERLY BRIERLEY), OF 107, VINE ST., GORTON, MANCHESTER, previously 6 Woodward St, Ancoats.
BROADMEADOW STEPHEN 31 10/07/1916 Lance Serjeant ‘8084’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF JOSEPH BROADMEADOW, OF ELSINORE, FRIARS RD., SALE, CHESHIRE, AND THE LATE MARY ELIZABETH BROADMEADOW. Enlisted 02/09/1914. Trained in III Pln, A Coy. Lance Corporal Broadmeadow had been out drinking with Arthur Bell in Grantham, during their stay at Belton Park. “Half a dozen lads of our platoon, including myself, walked a distance of three miles one evening to Grantham from Belton Park …We went the round of the pubs, but I had pork pie with lemonade each time, instead of beer. On the way back to barracks we all managed to tumble into an already half-filled conveyance, somewhat larger than an ordinary car without any roof on. Now, I was blown up as you can guess, my pals were canned up, but every one of us, except myself, travelled on the mini-bus without paying! At least that is what they said – one was an N.C.O. (Steve Broadmeadow).” Stephen is commemorated on Memorials at Sale Rugby Club and Sale United Church. Courtesy Trafford War Dead . Stephen left his effects to his father, Joseph. He had been born in Moss Side and educated at St Margaret’s School, Whalley Range and then St Mary’s School, Ashton on Mersey.
BROWN ARTHUR HORACE MORTIMER 29 10/07/1916 Second Lieutenant OVILLERS MILITARY CEMETERY SON OF ARTHUR MORTIMER AND SUSANAH KATE BROWN OF 2 WILKINSON ST., SOUTH LAMBETH, LONDON. Missing presumed dead. A former pupil at Dulwich College 1902-1906 and articled clerk with Associate Chartered Accountant (ACA) working with J. Edwards Myers & Clark. He was attached from 27th (Reserve) Battalion. He had originally enlisted in the Inns of Court OTC. Arthur’s body was discovered in 1933 in Bernafay Wood, close to Trones Alley on the eastern side. Following exhumation Arthur was identified by his personal effects, including a signet ring engraved by his father in 1908. He was then reburied in Ovillers Military Cemetery. Arthur senior had a business with artificial flowers. They received Arthur’s medals at a Great Portland Street address in 1929. Aged 29 at his death, Arthur had been commissioned on 27th October 1915 and arrived in France on 21st April 1916. Arthur is commemorated at St Marks War Memorial at Kennington Oval and Dulwich College.
BULL ERNEST 20 29/07/1916 Private ‘9527’ ST. SEVER CEMETERY, ROUEN SON OF MR. AND MRS. JOHN BULL, OF 4, HARWOOD RD., HEATON MERSEY, MANCHESTER. Died of wounds. Formerly employed at Peter Bailey Pottery Works, enlisted Cheshire Regiment – 13581. C Company 17th to France 08/11/1915.
CALLAN-MACARDLE KENNETH 26 09/07/1916 Second Lieutenant THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF SIR THOMAS CALLAN-MACARDLE, K.B.E., OF CAMBRICKVILLE, DUNDALK, IRELAND. Kenneth Macardle Profile
CALVERT ROBERT MAYSON 20 09/07/1916 Second Lieutenant SERRE ROAD CEMETERY No.2 SON OF ROBERT AND FANNY MARIA CALVERT, OF BURGH-BY-SANDS, CUMBERLAND. EDUCATED AT ST. BEES SCHOOL; HASTINGS EXHIBITIONER AT QUEEN’S COLLEGE, OXFORD. Officer Fatalities
DAVIS CYRIL EDWIN 24 22/07/1916 Private ‘9146’ LEBUCQUIERE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION NEPHEW OF CLARA DAVIS, OF 76, HIGHFIELD RD., SEEDLEY, MANCHESTER.
ELLISON THOMAS ARTHUR 23 10/07/1916 Corporal ‘8534’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF THOMAS FLEETWOOD ELLISON AND ELIZA ELLISON, OF URMSTON, MANCHESTER.
FREEMAN HAROLD WADSWORTH 10/07/1916 Private ‘26469’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
GREENHILL JOHN 10/07/1916 Private ‘8145’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
GRIGG MALCOLM HOWARD 22 09/07/1916 Second Lieutenant THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF JOHN SELBY GRIGG, AND GERTRUDE GRIGG, OF 10, RADLEY RD., BRUCE GROVE, TOTTENHAM, LONDON. Officer Fatalities
HASSALL FREDERICK NORMAN 23 10/07/1916 Private ‘8166’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF CECIL AND CAROLINE HASSALL, OF 43, WILTSHIRE ST., HIGHER BROUGHTON, MANCHESTER.
HENDERSON ROBERT 21 10/07/1916 Private ‘8647’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF MRS. MARGARET HENDERSON, OF 5, ELLISON ST., ACCRINGTON, LANCS.
HILL THOMAS 23 10/07/1916 Private ‘8652’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF MRS. M. A. HILL, OF 63, BARRETT ST., OLD TRAFFORD. MANCHESTER.
HUBBARD THOMAS 24 11/07/1916 Private ‘8189’ CORBIE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION SON OF ROBERT AND BETSY HUBBARD, OF 25, BOND STREET, BURY, LANCS.
See My great Uncle Thomas Hubbard and Trones Wood and Service Record
JACKSON WILLIAM 22 10/07/1916 Private ‘8666’ LONDON CEMETERY AND EXTENSION, LONGUEVAL SON OF MR. AND MRS. W. L. JACKSON, OF 206 PLATT LANE, RUSHOLME, MANCHESTER.
JAMIESON GEORGE 10/07/1916 Private ‘9330’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
JOHN FRANK 23 10/07/1916 Private ‘26495’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF SARAH JOHN, OF 16, HAMPDEN GROVE, PATRICROFT, MANCHESTER, AND THE LATE HENRY JOSEPH JOHN.
KELSALL CLARENCE EDWARD 24 10/07/1916 Private ‘8690’ CORBIE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION SON OF JAMES AND ESTHER KELSALL, OF NEWPORT, SALOP.
LAW JOHN 10/07/1916 Private ‘8703’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL III Platoon
LEAR FRANK EAST 30 10/07/1916 Private ‘8211’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF THOMAS EAST LEAR AND AMY DAWSON LEAR, OF 108, BROUGHTON RD., PENDLETON, MANCHESTER.
LINNEY LOUIS 10/07/1916 Serjeant ‘8705’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL III Platoon
PRESCOTT THOMAS CYRIL 10/07/1916 Private ‘9523’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
RAWLINSON CLIFFORD 10/07/1916 Lance Corporal ‘8831’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
RULE FRANK RENNIE 25 10/07/1916 Private ‘8853’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF THE LATE R. R. AND MARY JANE RULE.
SCHOFIELD LEONARD 22 10/07/1916 Private ‘8863’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF ELLIS AND ALICE SCHOFIELD, OF THE FIRS, POLEFIELD RD., PRESTWICH, MANCHESTER.
SMITH FRANK CLARKE 10/07/1916 Private ‘9505’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
SMITH S 13/07/1916 Private ‘8859’ URMSTON CEMETERY
SMITH WILFRED ERNEST BARNWELL 26 11/07/1916 Private ‘8884’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF SAMUEL AND JANE ELIZABETH SMITH.
STALEY JOHN EDWARD 21 10/07/1916 Private ‘8873’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF MRS. M. A. STALEY, OF 15, SUDBURY ST., QUEEN’S PARK, MANCHESTER.
STODDART ARTHUR 19 10/07/1916 Private ‘9379’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF CHARLES WILLIAM AND GERTRUDE STODDART, OF 3, CLAREMONT ST., CHORLTON-ON-MEDLOCK, MANCHESTER.
STORER ERNEST 10/07/1916 Private ‘9167’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
TAYLOR ALBERT 10/07/1916 Private ‘9132’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL BROTHER OF MRS. NELLIE GIBSON, OF 21, OLDHAM ST., BOLLINGTON, MACCLESFIELD, CHESHIRE.
TIGHE JOHN 19 09/07/1916 Private ‘8906’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF JAMES WILLIAM AND AMELIA TIGHE, OF 3, ROSS ST., WESLEY ST., HYDE RD., ARDWICK, MANCHESTER.
WALTON FREDERICK 10/07/1916 Private ‘10744’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Noted 18th Battn Number
WHITTAKER JOHN 29 19/07/1916 Private ‘8960’ SALFORD (WEASTE) CEMETERY SON OF RICHARD WHITTAKER AND SARAH WHITTAKER, OF ACCRINGTON; HUSBAND OF MARIAN WHITTAKER, OF 23, KNOLL ST., HIGHER BROUGHTON, MANCHESTER.
WILLOTT CHARLES 20 10/07/1916 Private ‘9309’ CORBIE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION SON OF MR AND MRS. F. W. WILLOTT, OF 5, MALT STREET, HUIME, MANCHESTER.
WILSON SIDNEY DOUGLAS 19 11/07/1916 Private ‘2945’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF ALEXANDER ALFRED WILSON, OF DUNSTON, LINCOLN.
WRAY WILFRED LAWRENCE 27 10/07/1916 Private ‘8354’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SON OF WILLIAM THOMAS AND EMILY MAUD WRAY, OF 142, BARTON RD., STRETFORD, MANCHESTER. Born in York and resident Stretford. Killed in Action. . Born 1889. Trained with XVI Pln. D Coy. Medal Roll specifies deceased rather than killed, probably near Trones Wood, 10/7/1916. It is likely he was originally posted as missing. Accountants clerk with George Robinson & Co. living with parents (13 children) at 1054 Chester Road, Stretford in 1911. W L Wray also shown on Manchester Corporation, Tramways Dept. Roll. THIEPVAL
Died of Wounds
DAVIS CYRIL EDWIN 24 22/07/1916 Private ‘9146’ LEBUCQUIERE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION III. C. 17. NEPHEW OF CLARA [& John] DAVIS, OF 76, HIGHFIELD RD., SEEDLEY, MANCHESTER. Born Bungay, Suffolk. Prisoner of War captured at Trones Wood 9/7/1916. Died of wounds in backside. May have initially been buried in Bertincourt Military Cemetery. Enlisted 4th January 1915. Employed as dyer. Hospital Grantham 30/8/1915-28/9/1915. France 8/11/1915. Various attendance as CCS for health complaints. A year after his death Mrs Emma C Rowe of Bungay confirmed she was Cyril’s mother, but insisted his death plaque should be held by Clara Davis as his guardian since childhood. Cyril’s father is not identified on his Service Record which provides status as illegitimate. Clara arranged the inscription on his grave “For God has taken him away. The one we loved so dear.”
Prisoners of War
CROWE FREDERICK GUEST 0 26/09/1916 Private Manchester Regiment ‘8466’ NIEDERZWEHREN CEMETERY, KASSEL IV. D. 15. Employee of Lancashire & Yorkshire Bank, Portland Street. Attended Manchester Grammar School. Died as Prisoner of War having been captured at Trones Wood on 09/07/1916. Obituary
MORRISSEY JOHN 20 02/11/1916 Private “B” Coy. 17th Bn. Germany ‘8734’ NIEDERZWEHREN CEMETERY, KASSEL Son of Mr. and Mrs. J. Morrissey, of 3, Bank Place, Salford, Manchester. Wounded and captured as POW at Trones Wood 09/07/1916. Died of Wounds Obituary
PARROTT R (F) 27/07/1916 Private ‘8267’ MANCHESTER (PHILIPS PARK) CEMETERY Wounded Montauban 1/7/1916 Site Visitors