Guillemont Casualties 30 July-30 Sept 1916

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Below is a summary of men from 17th Battalion, identified by CWGC as dying between 30th July and 10 October 1916. Inevitably some of these men will have died of wounds received at Montauban, Trones Wood or earlier engagements / illness. The majority will relate casualties at Guillemont on 29/30 July 1916.

Almond F Photo MEN 21.8.16

ALMOND             FRANK   21           30/07/1916         Private  “D” Coy. 17th Bn.             ‘8371’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of Herbert A. and Mary Almond, of 22, Granville Rd., Crumpsall, Manchester. Employee of T Hayward & Co      

ANKERS JOHN     26           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘35527’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of John Ankers, of 373, Manchester Rd., Mossley; husband of Harriet Ankers, of 7, Pickford St., Mossley, Manchester.    

BAGULEY             JOHN     0             30/07/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘8385’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Born Hulme. Resident Gloucester Place, City Road, Hulme. Employee of G Rosskill & Co.  3rd Place in obstacle race at Heaton Park Sports Day in April 1915. Killed in action.       

BEASLEY              WALTER               27           30/07/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘8434’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Resident 16 Fernly Street, Moss Side. Son of John Henry and Mary Ellen Beasley, of 4, Monton St., Moss Side, Manchester. Employee of Tootal Broadhurst, Lee & Co. Wounded and missing presumed dead.    

BLOOR  WILLIAM             24           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8442’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Husband of Mary Charlotte Bloor of 32 Hibbert Street, Hulme.  Mary remarried a Mr Mcallister.  Employee of J & N Philips Ltd. Missing presumed dead.              

BRADLEY             THOMAS ISAAC             30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9076’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Born 1883.  Wife Eliza. Three Children. Deansgate. Enlisted 03/09/1914 Previously 3rd Royal Lancs. Discharge & reversed 10/12/1914.  Drunkeness April / May 1916.  Absence in June 1916, Rouen and Etaples. Returned 17th Bttn 12/7/1916. Sanitary section. Killed in action.            

BROWNJOHN     LEWIS CHARLES 0             30/07/1916         Serjeant               17th Bn.               ‘9045’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of John and Annie Brownjohn.  Lewis had married Eveline Maud Mellor in July 1915 and she lived at Fern Lea, 32 Station Road, Crumpsall. Obituary

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BUCKLEY             ARTHUR                     30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8073’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Born Weaste. Parents resident 13 Granville Street, Monton. Employed by Thomas Collier & Co              

DAWSON             FRANK          30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘35104’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Born Barrow in Furness. Son of Alice. Brother of Alice Dawson of 32 Ruby Street, Moss Side.  Transferred from 3rd Bn. Missing assumed dead.         

Manchester Evening News 15 September 1916

DUTTON              JAMES   0             30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘4325’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of Susanah Dutton of 20 Lanaster Street, Hulme. Former overseas service with 12th Bn from 16/07/1915. Missing presumed dead.           

FEARN   HARRY LEWIS     20           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8137’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of Ann and the late Charles Fearn, of 310, Oldham Rd., Newton Heath, Manchester. Employee of Mather & Platt Ltd.      

FINN      THOMAS              0             30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘34903’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of Catherine Finn of Ballyharris, Larganboy, Ireland. Born Co Mayo. Enlisted Oldham. Missing assumed dead. 

GALE      NORMAN            0             30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘17897’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Formerly 20th Bn overseas 9/11/1915. Missing assumed dead. Brother in law of Annie Gale. Her brother was John Walker.         

GIBSON WALTER               0             30/07/1916         Corporal              17th Bn.               ‘9499’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Husband of Sarah Annie Gibson of 18 Ainsworth Street, West Gorton. Sarah remarried a Mr Bowers. Enlisted 03/03/1915. France 08/11/1915. L/Cpl 16/06/1916. Cpl 02/07/1916. Missing assumed dead.  

GLEAVE JOHN WILLIAM  31           30/07/1916         Private  “A” Coy. 17th Bn.              ‘8571’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Husband of Bertha Gleave, of 57, Liverpool St., Salford, Manchester.         

GOULDSBOROUGH          WALTER               20           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8144’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Harry Gouldsborough, of 39, Dudley St., Higher Broughton, Manchester, and the late Emma Gouldsborough. Worked at Carl Lomas of Manchester.     

GRUNDY              SYDNEY 0             30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8569’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Born Walkden. Son of Elizabeth Alice Grundy of  10 Albert Street, Little Hulton.  Killed in action.            

HEARDMAN        FRANCIS              23           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn ‘8172’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of Mr. and Mrs. Francis Heardman, of 34, Perth St., Cheetham Hill, Manchester. Employee of S Hinrichsen & Co. Killed in action.   

Manchester Evening News 14 September 1916

HUGHES               HAROLD               20           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8183’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of Edward and Mary Hughes, of 11, Lorne St., Moss Side, Manchester. Employee Rylands & Son Limited. Missing presumed dead.       

MEN 22/08/1916. CQMS F W Jones

JONES   FREDERICK          0             30/07/1916         Company Quartermaster Serjeant              17th Bn.               ‘9438’    PERONNE ROAD CEMETERY, MARICOURT              Husband of Nellie Jones of 1 Roseneath Avenue, Levenshulme Obituary

Alderley & Wilmslow Advertiser 15 September 1916

KOCHY  FRITZ     29           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘33859’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Heinrich (born Germany) and Annie Kochy (nee Halksworth), of 24, Maxton Rd., Dover. Aunt Emily Howarth of 18 Stockport Road, Levenshulme. Born Kensington. Brother, Henry, served in Italy with 21st Bn.           

Private John Lewis wearing the ‘Tram Guards’ uniform provided by the City and replaces in early 1915 by khaki. Courtesy Helen Wolfenden

LEWIS    JOHN WILLIAM              30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8223’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Husband of Bertha Lewis of Brindleheath, Pendleton. Killed in action.          Obituary

LINFOOT              HERBERT             0             30/07/1916         Serjeant               17th Bn.               ‘8213’               A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Son of  Kate Linfoot of 8 Hamiton Street, Old Trafford. Promoted Sgt by 08/04/1915. Missing presumed dead.      

LUCAS   FRANK   23           30/07/1916         Corporal              17th Bn.               ‘8219’    DELVILLE WOOD CEMETERY, LONGUEVAL               Son of William and Sarah Ellen Lucas, of 68, Hyde Grove, Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester. Killed in action.             

MASON WILLIAM       30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘33040’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Brother of Mrs. Annie Earlam, of 46, King St., Micklehurst, Mossley, Manchester. Previously 14th Bn. Killed in action. Brother, Andrew, also fell serving with the Regiment.   

McDERMOTT      DANIEL 30           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘34270’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Died age 30. Born Co Galway. Enlisted Manchester. Son of Patrick and Mary McDermott.       

William Mcewan, Dantzig Alley

McEWEN             WILLIAM             0             30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9034’    DANTZIG ALLEY BRITISH CEMETERY, MAMETZ         Brother of Annie Williams of 59 Cheetham Street. Clerk. Attended Chetham’s Hospital School.       

Sgt and A/CSM Joseph McMenemy

McMENEMY       JOSEPH 27           30/07/1916         Company Serjeant Major               17th Bn.               ‘8730’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of John McMenemy, of 20, Bispham St., Thorp Rd., Manchester.  Employee of Baxendale & Co. Missing presumed dead. Obituary

McNaboe Manchester Evening News – Friday 18 August 1916

McNABOE           THOMAS ARTHUR            19           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘31178’               DIVE COPSE BRITISH CEMETERY, SAILLY-LE-SEC    Son of Thomas and Annie McNaboe, of 1, Howarth St., Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester. Employed as Warehouseman at Mclarens, Moseley Street, Manchester. Attested 17/01/1916. Mobilised 26th Bttn 21/02/1916. BEF 02/07/1916. Joined the Battalion in the field 12/07/1916. Died of wounds.      

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MILLER RALPH MARILLIER            20           30/07/1916         Second Lieutenant           25th Bn. attd. 17th Bn.         ”             THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Charles Marillier Miller and Helen Louisa Mary Miller, of North Berwick. Obituary

MOLLOY              JOSEPH           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘34546‘  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of John Molloy. Unmarried wife, Eliza Jane Holdent of 31 Langworthy Road, Moston. Killed jn action.

MOORES              ERNEST 25           30/07/1916         Lance Corporal  “C” Coy. 17th Bn.              ‘8237’               DANTZIG ALLEY BRITISH CEMETERY, MAMETZ      Son of the late James and Elizabeth Moores – ramarried as Holden of 31 Langworthy Street, Moston; husband of Minnie Moores, of 293, Sandal St., Hulme Hall Lane, Manchester. Killed in action.              

MURRAY              THOMAS              20           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘27501‘  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of Michael and Mary Murray, of 5, Ashford St., Ashton New Rd., Manchester. Originally enlisted into the 22nd Manchesters as Pte 25520, but discharged 6 days later as not likely to be an efficient soldier.   

NORBURY           BERNARD            21           30/07/1916         Corporal              17th Bn.               ‘8251’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Resident 17 York Rd Chorlton on Medlock. Brother of Vincent Norbury, of 1, Bankhall Lane, Hale, Cheshire. Son of the late William and Louisa Norbury of West View, York Road, Chorlton cum Hardy. Worked at shipping department of Richard Haworth and Co.   Prominent member of Chorlton Lacrosse Club.          

PARKINSON        JOHN HAROLD   20           30/07/1916         Private  “C” Coy. 17th Bn.              ‘32281‘               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Only son of the late Abraham Robert and Margaret Parkinson, of 320 Abbeyhills Road, Oldham and Bombay.   Cotton trade. Missing presumed dead.

PHILPOTT            ARTHUR MILLINGTON    19           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘34829‘               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Charles and Margaret Philpott of 2, Summer Villas, Urmston, Manchester. Missing assumed dead.        

POWER JAMES EDWARD               0             30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9399’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL                       

ROBINSON          FRANK GRIFFIN  0             30/07/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘8821’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of John Robinson. Resident 11 Daisy Bank Road, Longsight. Missing presumed dead.

ROGAN JOHN     23           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘34422‘  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Mrs. Isabella Rogan, of 115 Carter Street, Greenheys, Manchester. Formerly 26th Bn.  Killed in action. 

ROSE     GEORGE               18           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘34685‘  SERRE ROAD CEMETERY No.2               Son of Hector Alfred and Christina Rose, of 10, Rosamond Terrace, Rosamond St., Hulme, Manchester. Attested 26/11/1915. Mobilised 14th Bn 30/03/1916. France 04/07/1916.  Joined 17th  Bn 17/07/1916. Missing assumed dead.

SHEEN   DAVID   0             30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9180’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL               Husband of Hannah Sheen of 4 Moss Lane, Swinton. Employee of Clifton Hall Colliery. Born Wigan. Missing presumed dead. 

Sheldon 17th Battalion Manchester Evening News – Friday 18 August 1916

SHELDON            ARTHUR LEONARD           0             30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9258’               DANTZIG ALLEY BRITISH CEMETERY, MAMETZ      Resident 100 Varley Street, Miles Platting. Employed at Bennett’s Mills Cumbrian Street,  Ancoats. Killed in Action.      Obituary

SMITH   WILLIAM             26           30/07/1916         Serjeant               17th Bn.               ‘8898’    DELVILLE WOOD CEMETERY, LONGUEVAL Son of Mrs. Smith, of 22, Cemetery Rd., Church, Accrington; husband of Eva Smith, of Manchester. Altham’s shop manager. Killed in Action with C Coy. Born Accrington       

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SUGARMAN        M                      30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘27829‘  DELVILLE WOOD CEMETERY, LONGUEVAL Obituary

Manchester Evening News 17 August 1916

SYKES    WALTER               30           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘33851‘  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of Mary Ann Sykes, of 158, Embden St., Hulme, Manchester, and the late Richard Sykes. Previously employed by the Red Cross. Killed by a sniper.         

TWYNHAM          JOSEPH 28           30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘26294‘  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Husband of Annie Louisa Twynham, of 7, Hargreave St., Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester. Trained with 25th Bn.           

UPTON  JOSEPH SCOTT   36           30/07/1916         Serjeant               17th Bn.               ‘10998’  DELVILLE WOOD CEMETERY, LONGUEVAL Son of Mrs. E. Upton, of 28, Clement St., Lower Broughton, Manchester. Sister, Lilian. Born and resident Salford. Enlisted 18th Bttn. Wounded and missing presumed dead. His brother William Edward Upton was killed on 15/08/1017 serving with Labour Corps.            

Lt James Watson 1916 Credit Bury Grammar School.1

WATSON             JAMES   23           30/07/1916         Lieutenant           27th Bn. attd. 17th Bn. DANTZIG ALLEY BRITISH CEMETERY, MAMETZ         Son of Robert and Elizabeth Watson, of Bond’s Hill, Londonderry. Obituary

Manchester Evening News 21 September 1916

WELSH  WILLIAM                 30/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘26385‘  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Adopted son of Sarah Winter of  35 Elizabeth Ann Street, Rochdale Road.  Worked at Small and Parkes, Zinc Street, Manchester. Missing assumed dead.              

Manchester Evening News 15 September 1916

WILSON               PATRICK JOSEPH               18           30/07/1916         Private  “D” Coy. 17th Bn.               ‘28875‘  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Mary Ann Wilson, of 25 Phelan Street, Collyhurst, later 46, Clare St., Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester, and the late Joseph Wilson.  Born Ireland. Trained 26th Bn. Mssing presumed dead.    

Manchester Evening News 11 September 1916

WILKINSON        HARRY   32           31/07/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘35639‘  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of William Wilkinson, of 9, Blue Bell Avenue, Moston Lane, Moston, Manchester. Girlfriend, Nora. Employed at Rylands and Co for 17 years. Killed in action by GSW to head. Date of death is probably the date of the roll call.

PORTER JOHN SCHOFIELD             28           01/08/1916         Serjeant               “C” Coy. 17th Bn.               ‘8269’    ABBEVILLE COMMUNAL CEMETERY          Son of Eliza Jane and the late Richard Porter, of Bolton; husband of Elsie Porter, of “Hazlemere,” 98, Chorley New Rd., Bolton, Lancs. Employee of Henry Hope & Sons. Enlisted 2nd Sept. 1914 and was Serjeant Signalling Instructor in his Bn.  Died of wounds. Obituary

Manchester Evening News 10 August 1916

OVENS  WALTER               23           03/08/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘8785’    ABBEVILLE COMMUNAL CEMETERY Son of John James and Mary Ovens, of Moss Side, Manchester. Employee of Hall & Pickles Ltd.            

ROBERTS ALFRED SHELDON         17           10/08/1916         Private  17th Bn.’27733‘ SALFORD (WEASTE) CEMETERY          Son of Herbert and Hilda Roberts, of 199, Hodge Lane, Seedley, Salford. Enlisted 3rd.  Posted to 17th Bttn 8/7/1916. Embarked 10/7/1916. 30th IBD Etaples 10/7/1916. Joined 17th Bttn in Field 18/7/916. GSW Right Leg. Home Depot 26/7/1916. Military Hospital York.  30/7/1916 Haxby Road  Died 12.30pm 10/8/1916. Obituary

HYNCH  WILLIAM             37           13/08/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘8174’    ABBEVILLE COMMUNAL CEMETERY Son of Thomas and Annie Hynch, of Manchester; husband of Martha Hynch, of Star Lane, Statham, Lymm, Cheshire. One child. Employed by Richard Goodair Ltd. Machine Gunner. Died of head wounds.

Shaw R MEN 28.8.1916

SHAW    ROBERT EDWARD            22             18/08/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8857’    BETHUNE TOWN CEMETERY RIFLE GRENADE ACCIDENT

17th Bttn War Diary

WILCOX               JOSEPH 22           18/08/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8930’    BETHUNE TOWN CEMETERY          Son of Hannah Wilcox, of 241, Manchester Rd., Walkden, Manchester. RIFLE GRENADE ACCIDENT

ARMSTRONG      ALAN     29           19/08/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9168’    CHOCQUES MILITARY CEMETERY      Resident Turf Lane, Hollinwood. Son of Emily Armstrong, of 18, Yates Terrace, Calrows, Elton, Bury. RIFLE GRENADE ACCIDENT

Manchester Evening News 16 September 1916

CULSHAW           WILLIAM             0             24/08/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8467’               KNIGHTSBRIDGE CEMETERY, MESNIL-MARTINSART           Son of Agnes Ellen Culshaw of 35 Smart Street, Longsight. Employed at at Arthur McDougall Ltd flour mill. Wounded Montauban 01/07/1916. Killed in action attached to 8th Loyal North Lancaster Regiment.       

Manchester Evening News 18 September 1916

WILLIAMS           FRANK   25           04/09/1916         Private  “A” Coy. 17th Bn.              ‘8320’    HEILLY STATION CEMETERY, MERICOURT-L’ABBE             Husband of Christine Sarah Gertrude Williams, of 23, Wilton St., Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester. Previously Post Office at Brook Street. Employed by Edward Simpson & Co. Assumed wounded 1st or 9th July. Attached to 21st Bn. Died of wounds.          

Dean G MEN 16/09/1916

DEAN     GEORGE LACHLAN 19      12/09/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9327’    BIRCH-IN-RUSHOLME (ST. JAMES) CHURCHYARD     Son of Tom and Annie Dean, of 21, Ashfield Rd., Rusholme, Manchester. Employed by Barlow & Jones Ltd. Wounded 01/07/1916.  Died of wounds Fulham Military Hospital Obituary   

Sheffield Daily Telegraph 29 September 1916
Private James Appleyard. Courtesy Tony Bowden, Manchesters Forum

APPLEYARD         JAMES   38           22/09/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9239’    MANCHESTER SOUTHERN CEMETERY   Son of James and Hannah Appleyard, of Hathersage, Derbyshire; husband of Mary Alice Appleyard, of 38, Mellor St., Prestwich, Manchester. A member of the Manchester City Police Force PC D218 from 28/6/1904. Wounded 01/07/1916. Died of leg wounds.       Obituary

CROWE FREDERICK GUEST 26/09/1916 Private 17th Bn. 8466 NIEDERZWEHREN CEMETERY, KASSEL POW See Trones Wood Casualties

ATTACHMENTS FROM OTHER REGIMENTS

More than 800 men arrived as drafts with 17th Battalion in mid-July 1916. Some of these men had trained with the Manchester Regiment and these can be identified above with numbers in bold, although some of this group may have been posted prior to July. CWGC records identified just three men who died on attachment on 30 July 1916. Work undertaken with CWGC has extended this list to include 14 other men – along with many other drafts now shown on attachment to other units on 30th Division.. They are now recorded with the other men who fell at Guillemont. Two such commemorations will be moved to the Thiepval Memorial.

Surname              Forename            AgeAtDeath        DateOfDeath      Rank      Unit       Regiment               Secondary Bn.    ServiceNumber  Cemetery            AdditionalInfo

BRACEWELL        WILLIAM HENRY               20           30/07/1916         Private  1st Bn.   East Lancashire Regiment             Att. 17th Manchesters     ‘24999’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Joseph Henry and Margaret Bracewell, of 247, Every St., Nelson, Lancs. Other records as 11th Bn E Lancs. Previous overseas service with 12th Bn E Lancs. Missing presumed dead.

PARROTT             JOHN     30           30/07/1916         Private  1st Bn.   East Lancashire Regiment             Att. 17th Manchesters            ‘18750’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of John Parrott, of II, Lanhill Rd., Paddington; husband of Nellie Parrott, of 122, Fernhead Rd., Paddington, London. Two children. Trained 3rd Bn E Lancs. Overseas 1st Bn E Lancs 21/07/1915. Missing presumed dead.

Unconfirmed  GREENWOOD WILLIAM 30/07/1916 Private East Lancashire Regiment 1st Bn. ‘24954’ YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL. Son of Lawrence Greenwood of 325 Grant Road, Haslingden. Recorded as 12th (Reserve) Bn for pension purposes. Medal Roll 12th & 1st Bn. BEF in 1916.  Missing presumed dead. 1st Bn E Lancs War Diary records the Bn taking over the front line at the Yser Canal with no identified casualties or men missing. Private Greenwood was probably attached to another unit when he was killed, but we have no evidence to confirm it was 17th Bn.  No other men were killed on attachment to other units from 1st Bn E Lancs on this day.

WALSHAM           HERBERT WILLIAM          0             30/07/1916         Private  1st Bn.   East Surrey Regiment             Att. 17th Manchesters     ‘1161’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Sister of Ethel Lillian Pearce.  France 17/03/1915. Killed in action. 47 men from 1st Bn E Surreys died on 29/07/1916, providing an indication that the posted Battalions for the attached men were not all out of the line at the time of attachment.

GREEN  ERNEST 0             30/07/1916         Private  18th Bn.               Middlesex Regiment        Att. 17th Manchesters       ‘PW/4808’           THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of William and Ann Green of Enderby Leicestershire.. Overseas 1916.

SHONE  JOSEPH 36           30/07/1916         Private  18th Bn.               Middlesex Regiment        Att. 17th Manchesters       ‘PW/1272’           THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Thomas Shone, of 8, Black Bank, Newcastle, Staffs. Enlisted 18th Bn Middx 07/04/1915. France 02/07/1916.  41IBD. Attached 17th Bn note dated 10/07/1916. Missing presumed dead.

WITTEN               ALBERT FREDERICK          26           30/07/1916         Private  18th Bn.               Middlesex Regiment             Att. 17th Manchesters     ‘PW/3555’           THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Albert and Kate Witten; husband of Maud B. Witten, of 2, Cranbury Rd., Fulham, London. Enlisted 18th Bn Middx 06/09/1915. France 02/07/1916. 41 IBD. To join 17th Bn 04/07/1916.  Killed in action.

FAIRLIE JOHN     0             30/07/1916         Private  18th Bn Middlesex Regiment        Att. 17th Manchesters       ‘PW/1996’           THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Husband of Annie Fairlie / James of Muswell Hill, Middlesex. Missing presumed dead.

Unconfirmed BRIGHTON HARRY PERCY 32 30/07/1916 Private      Middlesex Regiment 18th Bn. ‘PW/4872’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL. Son of James and Eleanor Brighton, of Bungay, Suffolk. France 1916. Missing presumed dead. 18th Middx had a church parade on this day, so Harry must have been attached somewhere to be posted missing.  We have no evidence to confirm it was 17th Bn.  No other men were killed on attachment to other units from 18th Bn Middx on this day. IFCP case researched by the late Kevin O’Neil from 2010.

Unconfirmed CLARK HENRY GEORGE  30/07/1916 Private Middlesex Regiment 18th Bn. ‘PW/5210’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL. Son of Ann L Clark of 4 Brabant Road, Wood Green, N22. Missing presumed dead. 18th Middx had a church parade on this day, so Henry must have been attached somewhere to be posted missing.  We have no evidence to confirm it was 17th Bn.  No other men were killed on attachment to other units from 18th Bn Middx on this day. Medal Roll shows service with 17th Bn Middx – possibly a transcription error.

DANCE  WILLIAM             37           30/07/1916         Private  5th Bn.  Royal Berkshire Regiment             Att. 17th Manchesters            ‘21000’  TINCOURT NEW BRITISH CEMETERY         Son of Mrs. Mary Ann Dance, of 86, Wescott Rd., Wokingham, Berks. Missing presumed dead. Royal Berks Post.

BARNETT             CHARLES              20           30/07/1916         Private  5th Bn.  Royal Berkshire Regiment               Att. 17th Manchesters     ‘19961’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of William Harvey Barnett and Mary Elizabeth Barnett, of 49, Granby Gardens, Reading. Killed in action. Royal Berks Post.

HERBERT             HARVEY GEORGE              39           30/07/1916         Private  5th Bn.  Royal Berkshire Regiment             Att. 17th Manchesters     ‘21317’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of the late James and Elizabeth Herbert, of Lower Ownham, Wickham Heath, Newbury, Berks. Presumed dead. Royal Berks Post.

Miles G E Courtesy Manchesters Forum

Unverified MILES GEORGE EDWIN 30/07/1916 Private Royal Berkshire Regiment 5th Bn. ‘20957’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL.  Son of Eliza Miles of Coleman Moor Cottages, Woodley, Wokingham. France in 1916. Missing presumed dead. 5th Bn Berks were training in Bouzincourt on this day, so George must have been attached somewhere to be posted missing.  We have no evidence to confirm it was 17th Bn other than the press report.  One other man was killed on attachment to 20th Bn KLR from 5th Bn Berks on this day. See Royal Berks Post. Photo Source.

Unconfirmed TAYLOR     WILLIAM 30/07/1916 Private Royal Berkshire Regiment   5th Bn. ‘19269’ THIEPVAL MEMORIAL. Husband of Ellen Taylor of Plaistow Green, Headley, Berks. Two children. Missing presumed dead. 5th Bn Berks were training in Bouzincourt on this day, so Willian must have been attached somewhere to be posted missing.  We have no evidence to confirm it was 17th Bn. One other man was killed on attachment to 20th Bn KLR from 5th Bn Berks on this day. See Royal Berks Post.

HARTLAND          TOM      23           30/07/1916         Serjeant               32nd Bn.              Royal Fusiliers    Att. 17th Manchesters            ‘1937’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Henry and Annie Hartland, of 31, Barker St., Oldbury, Birmingham. BEF 8th Bn Royal Fusils 01/06/1915 to 05/03/1916. France 28/06/1916 32nd Royal Fusils attached 17th Bn. Previously commemorated on Ploegsteert Memorial. Killed in action.

GRAYSMITH        CHRISTIAN ARTHUR V.    19           30/07/1916         Private  32nd Bn.              Royal Fusiliers Att. 17th Manchesters     ‘G/15767’            SERRE ROAD CEMETERY No.2      (Served as SMITH). Son of Alfred William and Dorothy Deborah Graysmith, of 44, Hatfield St., Stamford St., Blackfriars, London. Private Graysmith’s burial was relocated to Serre Road in 1927 and the attachment to 17th Manchesters was noted on the records.  His remains were identified from his discs, cap badge, shoulder titles and Pay Book.  These possessions and a locket were sent to his parents at Blackfriars in London.  The Graysmith family took the opportunity to arrange an inscription on their son’s headstone “We Forget You Not”.

FISHER  HARRY ALBERT   20           30/07/1916         Private  9th Bn.  Royal Sussex Regiment   Att. 17th Manchesters       ‘G/4683’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of James Edward and Annie Fisher, of 28, George Rd., Farncombe, Surrey. Enlisted Royal Sussex 11/09/1914. BEF 05/09/1914.  Wounded and home. France posted 9th Bn Royal Sussex 17/06/1916. Hospital Wounded reported 17/07/1916. 24 IBD 29/06/1916. Attached 17th Bn 12/07/1916. Missing presumed dead. Previously commemorated on the Menin Gate.

Pte Harry Fisher’s entry in the De Ruvigny Roll. No attachment is identified even though he was serving with 17th Manchesters when he died. Harry’s commemoration has now been moved from the Menin Gate to Thiepval Memorial
Manchester Evening News 21 August 1916

VAUGHAN ERNEST 30/07/1916 Private  7th Bn.  South Lancashire Regiment           Att. 17th Manchesters            ‘3399’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of George & Matilda Vaughan of Ardwick, Manchester. Resident 173 Tipping Street, Ardwick. 12 years previous service with the Manchesters. Enlisted S Lancs 09/08/1914. BEF 20/04/1915. Home 16/01/1916. France posted 7th Bn S Lancs 22/06/1916. 19IBD. Attached 17th Bn 11/07/1916. Killed in action. Brother Thomas fell serving with Manchesters 252457.

BENNETT  GEORGE 30/07/1916         Private  7th Bn.  South Lancashire Regiment               Att. 17th Manchesters     ‘26299’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of John Bennett (Address unknown). Enlisted 3rd Bn S Lancs 22/09/1915. France posted 7th Bn S Lancs 24/06/1916. 19IBD. Attached 17th Bn 11/07/1916. Killed in action.

O’NEILL THOMAS              28           30/07/1916         Private  7th Bn.  South Lancashire Regiment           Att. 17th Manchesters            ‘26091’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Mrs. Mary O’Neill, of 6, Prescott St., City Rd., Hulme, Manchester. Enlisted 3rd Bn S Lancs 13/08/1915. France posted 7th Bn S Lancs 24/06/1916. 19IBD. Attached 17th Bn 11/07/1916. Missing presumed dead.

Unconfirmed  O’HARE JAMES 30 30/07/1916 Lance Corporal Northumberland Fusiliers        25th (Tyneside Irish) Bn, ’30/257′ ARRAS MEMORIAL Addenda Panel 2. Son of Margaret O’Hare of 12 Carnpenden Street, Gateshead. Killed in action. Recorded in Tyneside Irish History as attached 17th Bn. A draft of @ 10 men attached from 25th Northumberland Fusils arrived with 17th Bn on 11/07/1916. Recent commemoration.

MILLS    ALFRED 0             30/07/1916         Private  6th Bn.  The Buffs (East Kent Regiment)    Att. 17th Manchesters       ‘G/337’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Enlisted 28/08/1914. Wounded 1915. Joined 6th Bn Buffs in field 28/04/1916.  Wounded 03/07/1916. Attached 17th Bn 11/07/1916.  Wounded and missing presumed dead.