Casualties at Flers 12-15th October 1916

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11 October 1916

B and D Companies took over the line north of Flers on the morning of 11th October.  During the day, the Manchesters faced a heavy bombardment from the German artillery.  B Company suffered the heaviest losses and had to be relieved by C Company.*  Six men lost their lives.

GUTHRIE             HARRY SYDNEY  H S         27           M M       11/10/1916         Serjeant               17th Bn.               ‘26327’  A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     “Husband of Florence Guthrie, of 56, Cecil St., Whitworth Park, Manchester. Florence provided prose in her obituary entry in the local newspaper.*

“Sweet be your rest, my husband dear,
In life I loved you very dear,
In death I do the same.
From his sorrowing and devoted wife, FLO”

The newspaper also confirmed the MM award for bravery and notes that Harry had been recommended for a commission. Manchester Policeman who resigned from D Divison at Didsbury and enlisted in 17th Bttn on 30/06/1915. France 25/12/1915.  Harry had been born in Newton le Willows, Lancs. where he is commemorated on the Earlestown War Memorial.”

STARKIE               LOUIS            21                          11/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘31155’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Alfred and Sarah Jane Starkie, of 12, Bury St., Oswaldtwistle, Accrington, Lancs. A weaver at Rhodes Mill, Oswaldtwistle. Killed in Action.

Cotton Factory Times 03 November 1916

DOBSON              WALTER             20                          11/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43161’  A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Husband of Rose Dobson of 17 Nelson Street, Accrington. Son, James, was born in November 1915. Cardroom hand in cotton mill at Alliance Mill, Baxenden. Walter was a regular attender at St. John’s Church, Baxenden. He attested under Derby Scheme 11/12/1915, mobilised 12th East Lancs, 24439, 16/02/1917.  France 04/07/1916. Attached to 17th Bttn in July 1916 and tranferred 01/09/1916. He previously worked as a labourer

Alexander (Alec) Mackie (Seated)

MACKIE ALEXANDER                                                   11/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8230’               A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Born in Salford, Alexander had been living with his Uncle John Hiram Sutton of 2 Boardman Street, Harpurhey; working as a pattern card maker in a shipping warehouse in 1911. Trained VI Platoon with Bert Brown.

JONES   PERCY HOWARD                        26                          11/10/1916         Company Serjeant Major               “B” Coy. 17th Bn.              ‘8673’    A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Husband of Leah Jones, of 3, Jackson St., Cheadle, Cheshire. Father of Kenneth Howard Jones, born 12/10/1915. Employee of George Robinson & Co.  Killed in Action.

JACKSON             ROBERT                           25                          11/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8683’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Robert W and Emma Jackson.  Husband of Elizabeth Jackson of 2 Sandy Lane, Stretford. Employed by the Callico Printers Association, Manchester.  He is found on memorials at St Clement’s and St Clement’s Day Schools Roll of Honour in Urmston. Killed in action.

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BROWN               MACDONALD WARRINER                                                  12/10/1916         Captain               17th Bn.                              THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of the Rev. F. Brown, of Nottingham; husband of Jean Warriner Dodds (formerly Brown), of Ash Cottage, Shere, Guildford, Surrey. “The memory of his generous, sunny nature and of the healthy influence he exerted among all who worked with him, will long be treasured.”              

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GOODWIN          ERIC LINDSEY               22                          12/10/1916         Lieutenant           13th Bn. attd. 17th Bn.                    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Alfred K. and Rosa M. Goodwin, of “Elmhurst”, Ellesmere Park, Eccles, Manchester. Lt Col JJ Whitehead wrote “He was killed leading his Platoon in the attack on the German trenches. He had not been with the battalion very long, but has proved a good and reliable offier. and did his work well.  He will be  a great loss to the Battalion.”  

Lt. Eric Lindsey Goodwin – Courtesy Da Ruvigny’s Roll

JONES   WALTER TRURAN                    18                          12/10/1916         Second Lieutenant               17th Bn.                              THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Daniel Robert and Annie Victoria Jones, of 14, Woodlands Rd., Middlesbrough.      

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LEVINSTEIN        GERALD EDWARD                                                   12/10/1916         Lieutenant               26th Bn. attd. 17th Bn.                   THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Ivan and Hedwig Levinstein of Blackley. Husband of Dorothy Levinstein of 12 Broomwater West, Teddington, Middx. Commissioned from 20th Royal Fusils UPSB. His Commanding Officer wrote:-  “He had not been in the Battalion very long, but was very popular with us all, and most thorough in his work-we shall miss him very much indeed.”         

PICKSTONE         DICK                  21                          12/10/1916         Second Lieutenant           14th Bn. attd. 17th Bn.                    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Eli & Mary Pickstone of 162 Ashton New Road, Beswick. Commissioned from ranks of 4th Hants.   

SIDEBOTHAM     JAMES NASMYTH WEDGWOOD        25                          12/10/1916         Captain               17th Bn.                              THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Brother of Mr. F. N. Sidebotham, of Raleigh House, Ottery St. Mary, Devon. Captain James Sidebottom as OC B Company led the third wave of the attack.  He reached the German front line trench, to be shot through the head while he was looking over the parados.    James had been OC I Platoon at Heaton Park and led the Lewis Gun Section when the Battalion left for France.       

WILKS    HAROLD                           22                          12/10/1916         Second Lieutenant           17th Bn.                              THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Edward L and Maria Wilks of Uttoxeter.  Major Whitehead wrote “Since he joined the battalion a short time ago he had worked very hard, and had charge of our scouts and snipers. He had done good work and was most conscientious in carrying out his duties.”          Obituary

12 October 1916 Other Ranks – Original Contingent from 17th Battalion

The majority of 17th Battalion’s casualties in the summer of 1916 had enlisted into the Manchester Regiment during 1914; or early 1915. Relatively few ‘original’ Warehouseman and Clerks who had trained at Heaton Park remained after July 1916.  Eleven of these ‘original’ Pals died on 12 October 1916 and a total of fifteen members of this group died as a result of the action at Flers.

CRAIG    HUBERT                 28                          12/10/1916         Private  “A” Coy. 17th Bn.               ‘8474’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of the late Hubert and M. J. Craig, of Rusholme. Manchester.Born in Walsall, Hubert was the son of the late Hubert Craig and Mrs Mary J Craig of Rusholme.  In 1911 Hubert had worked in a cotton warehouse and lived with his mother and sister at 8 Willesden Avenue.    It is likely the entry in the Roll of Honour for S & J Watts & Co relates to Hubert.              

EDMONDSON     LEONARD ALFRED                26                          12/10/1916         Corporal               17th Bn.               ‘8132’    A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Born at Manchester. Son of Alfred and Madeline E. Edmondson, of “Alarldale”, Highbury Avenue, Prestatyn, Flint. Killed in action. Former pupil of Warehouseman and Clerks Orphans’ School with his brother Charles and Arthur Bell. Employed by The Fine Cotton Spinners & Doublers’ Association Ltd. 

EVANS   HENRY KAY          28                          12/10/1916         Lance Serjeant   17th Bn.               8135′     A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Son of Thomas W. and Agnes Evans, of 28, Ashwood Avenue, West Didsbury, Manchester.        Obituary

FOALE   ERNEST                                            12/10/1916         Serjeant               17th Bn.               ‘8140’               A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Born Salford 1888.  Son of William and Susannah Foale deceased. Brother of Harry, Ted, Walter (all serving) and sisters Polly, Alice and Pattie resident 158 Hodge Lane, Seedley. Fiancee Jinnie.  Killed in action. Occupation as Warehouseman at Tootal Broadhurst, Lee & Co.    “A” Coy. I Platoon.           

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HERBERT             HUGH FRASER                12/10/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘8623’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Born & Resident Galashiels, Selkirk. KiA.  “B” Coy. Employed at Afleck & Brown Department Store. Son of William Herbert. Sister, Winnie, resident 12 Roxburgh Street, Gallashiles.          

MITCHELL           ALEC                  25                          12/10/1916         Private  “D” Coy. 17th Bn.               ’17/8241′             DARTMOOR CEMETERY, BECORDEL-BECOURT     Son of Charles William and Kate Mitchell, of 4, Warrener St., Sale, Manchester. Native of Brooks’ Bar, Manchester. Died of wounds.     Obituary

NEWLAND           William            23                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8766’               DARTMOOR CEMETERY, BECORDEL-BECOURT     Son of the late Elizabeth Ann and Gilbert Newland, of 18, Portland Rd., Gorse Hill, Stretford, Manchester. Died of wounds. A” Coy. IV Platoon.      

PAGE     SIDNEY              23                          12/10/1916         Private  “C” Coy. 17th Bn.              ‘8800’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of George and Sarah Ann Page, of 4, Prestwich St., Irlams-O’-th’-Height, Manchester. Missing presumed dead. Age 23 “C” Coy

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PALMER               HAROLD                          38                          12/10/1916         Serjeant               17th Bn.               ‘8265’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Husband of Susannah Palmer, of 4, Horton Rd., Rusholme, Manchester. Three children. Employed Thomas Collier & Co. Killed in action. Trained XVI Pln.           

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ROBERTS             JAMES                                            12/10/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘8840’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Born Manchester. Resident Pendleton, Lancs. Enlisted 3/9/14. Employed as Printer. Father James, 91 Clarence Street, L/Broughton, then 2 Blackstock Rd, Chorlton-on-Medlock; Home of Uncle William, who was recipient of Williams effects (none) and medals.  Mother died by 1916.  James Snr was Pte 41346 in Welsh Rgmnt. Promoted L/Cpl. 1/7/16. KiA. None “C” Coy. Boys’ Refuge, Strangeways Roll of Honour.      

ROGERS ARTHUR                      12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8826’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Mother resident Middleton Road Lodge, Heaton Park. Born New Moston, Manchester. KiA. “B” Coy.          

Manchester Evening News 05 December 1916

12 October 1916 Other Ranks – Posted from other Manchester Regiment Battalions

Following arrival in France on 8 November 1915 numerous drafts of replacement men arrived with the Battalion.  In the period up to July 1916 these men had been trained with Reserve Battalions of the Manchester Regiment.  From July – October 1916 onwards the drafts were primarily composed of men from other Regiments, although newly trained men continued to be posted from the Manchester Reserves and two men are noted as being transferred from 20th Battalion. 21 men from this group died at Flers on 12 October.

Manchester Evening News 08 November 1916

RILEY     JAMES ALFRED   J A          21                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘17738’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Edward Riley, of 95, Bradford Rd., Manchester, and the late Mary Riley. KiA. Trained IX Pln 20th Bttn disembarking 09/11/1915. Transferred to 17th Bttn.           

SETTLE  ROBERT JACKSON                      26                          12/10/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘18421’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Joseph and Elizabeth Settle, of 139, Lorne St., Moses Gate, Bolton; husband of Alice Settle, of 19, Green Lane, Kearsley, Bolton. Enlisted April, 1915. Trained XIX Pln 20th Bttn disembarking 09/11/1915.          

McGUIRE             PATRICK                  28                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘24744’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of the late Martin and Bridget McGuire; husband of Maria McGuire, of 6, Blair St., Oldham Rd., Manchester. L/Cpl  Patrick Mcguire (Paddy) leaves a Widow, Maria and Children. Played left back for Manchester United and City.  Enlisted May 1915 in 3rd Bttn and then played for Grimsby Town. France after April 1916.   Missing presumed dead.       Obituary

TURPIN FRED              12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘26268’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Unmarried wife, Lottie Page / Turpin, lived at 182 Dantzic Street, New Town, Manchester       

KNAPPER             JOE     21                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘28464’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Mark Knapper, of 8, Bower Lane End, Hollinwood, Oldham. News has reached Mr. Mark Knapper of 6, Bower lane end ,Hollingworth, that his son Pte 28464 Joe Knapper, who worked as a spinner in Oldham, has been listed as missing, on the 12th Oct 1916. He has now been reported as killed on this date. This is the second son that Mr. Knapper has lost in 17 days. Pte 7011 Mark Knapper of the 1/7th kings Liverpool Regiment, was killed on 25th September, 1916.  Attested 08/12/1915.  Mobilised 27th Bttn 22/01/1916. Posted to France with 22nd Bttn 24/06/1916. and transferred to 17th Bttn 16/07/1916.              

MORT    JOHN                12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘32390’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of William and Rebecca Mort of 5 Vernon Street, Old Trafford.  Presumed Dead              

ELLIOTT               George Bartlett           12/10/1916         Corporal              17th Bn.               ‘32794’  A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     “Manchester University Roll of Honour – Elliott, George Bartlett. Son of Thomas Phelps & Elizabeth Elliott, Holly Villa, Rectory Road, Crumpsall. Born 1895 at Sale. Holly Bank School; Manchester G.S. O.T.C. Oct. 1915 to Jan. 1 9 1 6. Apprentice to the Cotton Trade. Enl. 1916. Presumed Dead.     

ROWLAND          JOHN  24     12/10/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘33381’  A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Son of William and Martha Rowland of20 Smith Street, Lees. Cotton Spinner / Minder at Commercial Mill, Oldham. Originally 27th Battalion. Killed in Action.    

Manchester Evening News 25 October 1916

FURBER               CYRIL    26                          12/10/1916         Corporal              17th Bn.               ‘33414’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Annie Furber, of 133, Rock St., Mumps, Oldham, and the late John E. Furber. KIA.         

HOPE     ALBERT                                        12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘33608’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of Robert & Margaret Hope of 33 Grant Street, Blackley. Trained 26th Bttn. Missing presumed dead.

MATHER              HORATIO            30                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘33760’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Eldest son of Jane Mather, of 21, Park St., Heaton Park, Manchester, and the late William Mather. KIA.     

TIERNAN             JOHN EDWARD        28                          12/10/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘33761’  A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Son of William and Mary Tiernan, of 101, Edson Place, Tieman Avenue, Corona, Long Island, U.S.A. Native of Manchester, England. KIA      

TAYLOR CHARLES FRANCIS            25                          12/10/1916         Lance Serjeant   17th Bn.               ‘33853’  WARLENCOURT BRITISH CEMETERY         Son of Charles and Sarah Catherine Taylor, of 22, Baywood St., Harpurhey, Manchester; husband of Teresa Taylor. Missing presumed dead, shortly after marrying his sweetheart, Miss Teresa Gowing.     

Manchester Evening News 01 November 1916

WALKER               PETER SWAN  31                          12/10/1916         Corporal              17th Bn.               ‘33876’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Charles and Mary Walker; husband of Edith Walker, of 500A, Oldham Rd., Newton Heath, Manchester.  

BOYLING             ARTHUR               A             31                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘33988’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Edward and Fanny Boyling. Born Thornham Lancs. Resident Chadderton. KiA.            

CLARKE WILLIAM         12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘33998’               A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Son of William Henry & Stepson of Elizabeth Clarke of 14 Adelphi Street, Oldham.  Employed as Carter. Attested Derby Scheme 09/12/1915. Mobilised & posted to 4th Bttn 08/03/1916. France 01/07/1916 posted 17th Bttn. Arrived in the field 18/07/01916. Presumed dead.

MORAN               WILLIAM     22                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘34516’  A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Son of William and Katherine Moran, of 9, Hamilton St., Collyhurst, Manchester. Born St . Helens. KiA.

NOLAN  WILLIAM    12/10/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘34824’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Born Dublin. Son of Ann Nolan of 112 Heysham Road, Southport. Presumed dead.         

MARSHALL          PERCY ROBERT  36                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘34855’  WARLENCOURT BRITISH CEMETERY         Brother of Harold Marshall, of 106, Oliver St., Stockport. Born Stockport. Resident Withington. Presumed dead.

ORMISHER          JAMES  21                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘35215’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of John Thomas and Ann Ormisher, of 53, Northumberland St., Wigan. KIA.        

Wigan Observer and District Advertiser 02 December 1916

VALENTINE         MOSES          28                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘35375’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of John and Margaret Valentine, of 26, Church St., Standish, Wigan. Finisher at Standish Bleach Works. Bugler or Chuch Lads’ Brigade. Standish Cenotaph and family headstone St Wilfred’s, Standish.    Killed while attempting to save his officer.

12 October 1916 Other Ranks – Attached from other regiments in July 1916 and transferred on 1 September 1916

Following the losses at Montauban and Trones Wood large drafts of men were attached to 17th Battalion on 11/12th July 1916 and subsequently transferred in September.  The men arrived from a wide range of County Regiments, including those from the north west and south of England.  Most of these men had recently arrived from England after their initial training and others had already served overseas including a number of experienced NCOs. 24 men from this contingent died at Flers as a result of the assault.

SCHOLES              THOMAS    32                          12/10/1916         Serjeant               17th Bn.               ‘43131’  DARTMOOR CEMETERY, BECORDEL-BECOURT     Son of James and Caroline A. Scholes, of Bolton. Formerly 16467, Loyal North Lancs Regt. DoW.             

BENNISON          RICHARD      27                          12/10/1916         Serjeant               17th Bn.               ‘43132’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Eliza Bennison, of 1, Gilnow Rd., Bolton, and the late George Bennison. Formerly 16117, North Lancs. Regt. KiA.             

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DICKINSON         JOHN   29                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43133’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Mrs. Emily Arrowsmith, of II, Carr Lane, Chorley, Lancs. Formerly 14284, 9th Loyal North Lancs Regt. enlisting on 7/9/1914.  Wounded 7/7/1916 – Poss La Boiselle. Previously employed by Ellerbeck Colliery. Attended St Gregory’s Catholic Church, Chorley. Further details courtesy @SKnight1921    

HEYS      ROBERT    12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43166’               A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Born Rawtenstall, Lancs, Formerly 25013, East Lancs Regt.              

HEYS      HARRY DIXON    21                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43168’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Matthew and Mary A. Heys, of 17, Woodside Terrace, Nelson, Lancs. Former Butcher. Resident 78 Fleet Streer, Nelson Lancs. Enlisted27/3/16 26472, 12th Reserve East Lancs Regt.Embarked  France 4/7/16. Attd. 17th MChrs. 11/7/16. Trsfrrd. 1/9/16. KiA.

WALKER               WILFRED W.     21                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43179’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Resident 40 Commercial Street, Brierfield. Son of Richard and Grace Walker, of 18, Halifax Rd., Brierfield, Burnley. Formerly 26308, East Lancs Regt. Missing presumed dead.

WIBDEN              HARRY  12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43181’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL  Resident Alma Cottage, Cloughfold, Rawtenstall. Employed by W Tayor, Confectioner. Formerly 22145, East Lancs Regt. Missing presumed dead.         

JONES   PERCY      12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43237’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Born Glascote, Warwick. Resident Stockingford, Nuneaton. Formerly 18821, South Lancs Regt. KiA.

BLUNDELL           ARCHIE EDGAR   A E         34                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43271’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Born & Resident 3 Stratfield St, Bow. Labourer. Wife Alice. 2 Daughters & Son (Died). Enlisted 1/9/14  11580, 1st & 3rd Bttns. Royal Berks Regt.  France 23/2/15. GSW Back (1st Btttn.) 15/5/15, Richebourg. Home until 7/12/15.  Transferred 17th M/Chrs 1/9/16. KiA. Brother’s letter confirmed service in B Coy. 6th Platoon using RBR No..      

GARDNER            ALBERT JOHN     A J                                        12/10/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘43273’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Born Newington, Wallingford, Oxon. Formerly 9219, 1st Bttn Royal Berkshire Regt. KiA. Son of James and Sarah Gardner of Newington, Wallingford, Oxon. A letter from Pte Briggs to his sister Sarah of Oxford states: “I saw your brother killed and buried by a shell along with 3 other men at Flers on 12th October”. He was 21yrs old and had worked as a farm labourer, for Mr. frank Stubb since leaving school. Arrived France 20/9/1914 with Regular RBR.           

ATKINS  FREDERICK          F             34                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43277’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Husband of Ethel Jane Atkins, of Turville Village, Henley-on-Thames. Born Staton Church.  Residence Henley-on-Thames. KiA.  

BURROWS           EDWIN  E             37                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43278’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Charles and Martha Burrows; husband of Helen Burrows. Born Oxford. Enlisted Acton, Middx. KiA. Formerly 19171, Royal Berks Regt. Obituary     

BOSELEY              ARTHUR                                        12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43280’  FLATIRON COPSE CEMETERY, MAMETZ    Born Tilehurst. Resident Reading, Berks. Son of Charlotte Boseley of Calcot, Reading. DoW. Formerly 20969, Royal Berks Regt.            

JENNINGS           ROBERT  12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43307’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Born and Resident Stanford-in-the-vale, Faringdon, Berks. Formerly 20955, Royal Berkshire Regt. KiA. None Pte 43307 Robert Jennings of Stamford in the Vale Farringdon Berkshire has been reported missing 12-10-16 aged 35. A quarryman. Joined the battalion on 1-9-16.          

SEYMOUR           FREDERICK WILLIAM       12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43336’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Employed packer with G.W.R. Engineering Dept. Pangbourne.  Resident 10 Downing Road, Tilehurst. Married Elizabeth Hiscock  19/5/16.. Attested in Reserve Dec 1915.  Mobilised Feb 1916 20171, France 29/3/16.C Coy. 9th Royal Berkshire Regt.  10.4.16, Bovington. Wounded 28.6.16. Wimereux Hosp. 29/6/16. 5th Bttn. 30/6/16.  Attached 11/7/16 then Transfer 17th M/Chr 1/9/16.  KiA Age 27. Commemorated on GWR Memorial, Chester.              

THOMAS              ARTHUR JAMES    34                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43339’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of the late John and Eliza Stella Thomas, of 43 Belgravia St., Penzance, Cornwall. Born & Resident Penzanze Cornwell, Enlisted Reading. KiA.             

Acton Gazette 17 November 1916

CHILDS  CHARLES HENRY               C H         35                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43353’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of the late George and Esther Childs. Born Acton, Middx. Formerly G/26271, Royal Fusiliers. KiA.    

KING      GEORGE HENRY G H         43                          12/10/1916         Lance Corporal  17th Bn.               ‘43358’  WARLENCOURT BRITISH CEMETERY         Son of Charles John and Mary King, of Elmfield, Ryde, Isle of Wight; husband of Florence King, of 106, Salisbury Rd., West Ealing, London. Born Elmfield, Ryde.  Formerly 8701, Royal Fusiliers. Served in India with 1st Bn. Hampshire Regt. for 12 years, and in South Africa with 2nd Bn. Royal Munster Fusiliers for 4 years. Served in India with 1st Bn. Hampshire Regt. for 12 years, and in South Africa with 2nd Bn. Royal Munster Fusiliers for 4 years. L/Cpl 43348 George, Henry King of 108, Salisbury Rd West Ealing has been killed in action; 12-10-16 aged 41. Joined in a draft on 1-9-16. His body was located by a grave registration unit, and reburied at Marlencourt. A postman.             

PAYNE   MONTAGUE SINCLAIR           12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43362’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Born & Resident Edmonton, Middx. KiA.  

WAKELIN JOHN             21                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43372’               A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Son of Mrs. E. Wakelin, of 56, Bedford Rd., West Ealing, London. Born & Resident Ealing.  Enlisted Ealing RF G/26267. Mob 17/3/1916 5th Royal Fusilier. BEF RF. Att 17th Manch & transfererred 1/9/1916. Adm CCS 25/8/1916. Rejoined 17th 25/9/1916. Missing assumed dead. 

PARSONS             STEPHEN                                        12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43409’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Born  Crawley, Sussex. Resident 16 Spencer Road – Bricklayers Labourer. Parents Nathan Peter & Annie. Enlisted 28/10/15 G/8057  Royal Sussex Regt. – Time expired Territorial 4th Bttn. – 4 Yrs. Posted 10th RSR Nov. 1915.  France March 1916. GSW R/Hand 29/6/16. 9th Bttn .Aug 1916. Transfer 17th M/CHr 1/9/16. KiA.     

HACKETT             ALBERT            32                          12/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43419’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of George and Ellen Hackett, of 52, Essex Rd., Bersted, Bognor, Sussex. Born Horley, Surrey.  Bricklayer’s labourer & resident Newtown, Near Bognor. Attested 25th (Reserve) Middx. Regt. 11/12/15 Posted 24/3/16. France with 18th Bttn. 1/7/16. Transferred 17th M/Chrs 1/9/16. Missing assumed dead.   

13-15 October 1916 Other Ranks

A number of men died from wounds following evacuation. In addition a group of men were killed on 15 October prior to the Battalion’s withdrawal from the front.

MUSGRAVE         WILLIAM          13/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43171’  DARTMOOR CEMETERY, BECORDEL-BECOURT     Brother of Mrs. S. E. Gresham, of 5, Boothman’s Buildings, Bridleway, Newchurch, Manchester. Enlisted Rawtenstall. Previously 26463 E Lancs. Died of Wounds.

HAGGERTY          THOMAS       13/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43195’  HEILLY STATION CEMETERY, MERICOURT-L’ABBE               Son of Thomas & Mary Haggerty of  133 Stanhope Street, Newcastle on Tyne. Stationers Assistant. Born Newcastle 1893. Attested Newcastle 28135 Northumberland Fusils 11/12/1915. Mobilised 4/3/1916 25th Northumberland Fusils Hornsea. France 29/6/1916 posted as 25th Northumberland Fusils. 34IBD 1/7/1916. Attacched 17th Bttn in field 12/7/1916 & transfer 1/9/1916. GSW Face 12/10/1916. Died of wounds 38CCS.

JONES   LLOYD           31                      13/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘8682’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of William Jones of 28 Sedan Street, Hightown. Mother received medals at 6 Percival Street, Hightown.Employee of Co-op Wholesale Society, Drapery Dept. Enlisted 03/09/1914. Trained XII Platoon. CB April & October 1915. France 08/11/1915. 2 Gen Hosp Le Havre Piles 17/2/1916. Returned 17 24/3/1916. KIA Flers

HATTON              Charles FREDERICK                                       14/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               9269      HEILLY STATION CEMETERY, MERICOURT-L’ABBE               Son of Frederick & Mary Janet Hatton of 3 Turner Street, Openshaw. Grocers Assistant. Ttrained XVII Pln. Died of gun shot wounds at 38CCS.

Manchester Evening News 08 November 1916

STYLES  ERNEST                                           15/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘32499’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL         Son of James & Ada Styles of 11 Ducie Street, Levenshulme.  Electrical Engineer. Killed in action.

JENNER JOHN RICHMOND   21                          15/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘32842’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Husband of Beatrice Molloy (formerly Jenner), of 34, Duncan St., Ashton-under-Lyne. Trained 3rd Bttn. Missing Presumed dead.

BELLINGER          THOMAS      38                          15/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘43281’  A.I.F. BURIAL GROUND, FLERS     Son of Sarah Ann Bellinger, of Shrivenham, Berks, and the late Thomas Bellinger. Attested Derby Scheme 22/11/1915. Mobilised posted 9th Royal Berks 28/3/1916. 20978. France 01/07/1916. Attached 17th Bttn 11/7/1916 and transfered on 01/09/1916.

LOVEGROVE       ABRAHAM           A             40                          15/10/1916         Private  “A” Coy. 17th Bn.               ‘43312’  THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Mr. J. and Mrs. E. Lovegrove, of Little Heath, Calcot, Reading. Formerly 21010, Royal Berks Regt.  Attested as Reserve Nov. 1915. Called up 9th Bttn. 27/3/1916. France 20/6/16 posted as 5th Royal Berks.  Attached 11/7/16; Transfer 17th M/Chr 1/9/16. A Coy.  KIA.

Reading Observer 11 November 1916
Manchester Evening News 11 November 1916

HUDSON              BENJAMIN       22                          15/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9299’    THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Son of Emma Hudson and the late David Hudson, of Prestwich. Manchester. Fruiterer enlisted 15/02/1915 & trained XIX Pln. France 08/11/1915. KIA with D Coy.

LUNDY  THOMAS                         15/10/1916         Private  17th Bn.               ‘9335’               THIEPVAL MEMORIAL     Born Middleton-on-the-wolds, Yorks. Son of Annie Lundy od 4 Sycamore Street, Oldham Road. Brother, Richard, also fell serving with Regiment, no 44248. France in 1916.Trained XIX Pln. Missing presumed dead.